064 He's Been Everywhere, Man: Jeff Phillips, News/Sports Production Vet

Jeff Phillips and I worked together at ESPN for a brief spell in the 1990s, and while his career took more of a hard news direction, we have stayed in touch via social media. Never shy about his opinions -- and with a wealth of experience in local and national news organizations -- I knew he would be a wheelhouse guest for the pod. We cover his St. Louis Cardinals fandom, his thoughts on how sports coverage is changing, and his pivot away from broadcast media. We also take hard left turns into "fake news," local TV and radio, and the importance of maintaining meaningful connections to stay afloat in this industry.